Making windows worse, AI, and forced CPU upgrades in this economy? There really is something for everyone to hate here.
Yes please!
I could use a few more modern tiny/mini/micros to make into useful Linux boxes.
If vibe-coding is wrecking Windows 11 and Office now … just wait until Windows 12 sees the light of day! Ohhh boy, will that ever be some infinite-monkeys-on-typewriters-shite!
Didn’t they jest release windows 11?
Didn’t they once allude to windows 10 being the last windows because no more revisions were necessary
No, media did say that at over point, but it was never based on any announcement from Microsoft.
They’ve been saying that since XP
No, windows 11 has been out for like 5 years now.
Oh, well it sucks and I don’t use it.
Same. Switched my personal machine to Mint instead of “upgrading” to 11. I have to use 11 for my work device, and it’s not hyperbole to say that it gets worse every single week.
Fuck that and fuck Microslops pick me CEO.
God it feels good to be Windows free by this point.
I’m beginning to think this is all a conspiracy to try to kill Windows because Microsoft doesn’t want to support a desktop OS anymore.
My theory is that all these CEOs in charge of all these companies that are incorporating AI are being gaslit by the AIs. I mean, has anyone ever met an actually strong minded and intelligent CEO? It’s probably really easy.
This is an excuse to build out AI, wreck the consumer electronics market, and sell us all dumb terminals that connect to their AI cloud, so they can monitor and profile everything everyone does (including enterprise)
It’s Clippy all over again, but with the AI slop it’s now named Drippy.
I’ve had a similar suspicion actually, but it’s also possible they’re on some incomprehensible level of incompetence.
Are they loosing money on the OS? I don’t believe for a second that the capitalist company chooses less capital. But, maybe they’ve determined there’s more capital in less market share? What’s your theory, exactly?
I don’t believe for a second that the capitalist company chooses less capital.
But what if it very slightly makes next quarter’s numbers go up? Any future cost might be worth that, after all.
Make it infeasible to run Windows on your personal machines by limiting how long you can use the hardware, but conveniently support it as a cloud vm service that is always guaranteed to work with a monthly subscription.
To people in the real world, it sure seems like it. I think the people managing the product (middle management on up) live in their corpo bubble so far from reality, they don’t feel/hear or have to deal with actual state of things.
Short term profitability over all else seems to be the mantra.
MSFT C Suite:
remember when windows 10 was supposed to be the last os they ever made
It was certainly the last one that I voluntarily used.
Dude, they’re still struggling with Windows 11 adoption because of the unreasonable requirements of a TPM 2.0 capable motherboard/CPU… and they are asking people to upgrade their CPUs again?
They only started seeing real growth in Windows 11 numbers as of January of this year. Windows 11 finally hit 73% last month while Windows 10 is down to 27%. Linux continues to gain marketshare, and there’s no telling if the reason that Win 11 is finally gaining marketshare is from people dumping Windows entirely for other options. Mac and Chromebook shares have been growing as well! It took Microsoft four and a half years from release to break 50% Win 11 adoption and they want to release Win 12 on year five while forcing more upgrades when half the people who got in just upgraded?
This on top of trade wars, actual wars, and an AI arms race that is making buying PC parts obscenely overpriced… and they think people will fucking go for this?
The suits at Microsoft are out of their fucking minds. Even businesses won’t want to upgrade this soon after many only just making upgrades to meet Windows 11 requirements just recently… because businesses are also facing the same increased costs due to the above issues!
god i hope they fuck this up
The suits at Microsoft are out of their fucking minds.
Yes. They are stupid and don’t deserve their huge paychecks.
They could’ve done basically nothing. Maybe security updates. And they would’ve had a decent brand that kept bringing in money. Their leadership is worse than doing nothing. A dog would make a better ceo.
They’re already fucking this up with vibe-coding Windows 11, so if they seriously go all-in on this, Windows 12 will be a bigger disaster than fucking Windows Vista and Windows Millennium Edition combined.
…and frankly, I think they will. They’ve bet the farm on this AI shit, and they need to force it into everything to justify it’s fucking existence even though Copilot is the most dogshit out of all these dogshit generative AI systems.
vista was great on compliant hardware. w11 is very much not.
Right, but that’s just it, they’re basically pulling another Vista if they release Windows 12 later this year.
It’s not clear whether Windows 12 will welcome any non-NPU processors. More likely, PCs that don’t meet its system requirements will lose some functionality.
As the article reasonably posits, it’s way more likely that they’ll just degrade the experience for people without NPUs, which in other words means decreased performance on older hardware, a la Vista on non-compliant hardware. Yes, Vista fucked up rollout by claiming that some hardware was Vista ready when it wasn’t, but basically the same could happen here regarding lack of NPUs.
whoof. i still don’t understand what makes an npu different from a vector coprocessor (except the proprietary api) so if they’re smart about it they’ll fall back to gpu use. they will not be smart about it.
No, because that was a shitty headline that mischaracterized an employee’s one-off statement and was then held up as gospel truth by the internet.
Windows 7 was arguably the last OS they ever made.
This line of thought goes all the way back to NT, and even then IBM would have some comments.
DOS was the last one they built, and they made a really decent GUI for it before they switched to NT.
And they still haven’t even finished making PowerShell anywhere near as functional as Bash or any other Linux shell environment. First version of PowerShell came out exactly 10 years after the first version of NT.
I don’t outright hate PowerShell but it’s clearly a hacky afterthought after realizing Linux was eating their lunch in the server space via quick rollouts to thousands of computers at once through Bash scripting.
I find PS pretty great. Probably the best improvement to Windows since going 32-bit.
For sure, it’s a vast improvement, but there’s still so much you can’t do with it.
Mostly because unlike Bash and DOS, which are CLIs that get GUIs slapped on top, PowerShell is a CLI slapped on top of a GUI.
Windows 10 arguably became passable for stability about 3 years after release… but you still had to cut out the advertising bloat, spyware, and all which undermined any gains of stability because that shit was just fucking annoying.
wasn’t advertised as such though
Yes, like Arch but for windows
CPU upgrades? What CPU’s? Are the CPU’s in the Microcenter with us, Microsoft? Can you show us on the shelf where the mystical CPU’s are?
Is the shortage a mirage? Our imagination?
What is the charge? Installing a CPU? A succulent x64 CPU? Gentlemen, this is supply side economics manifest!
And you sir, is your motherboard socket waiting to receive my CPU?
If you’re not ready to switch to Linux:
Windows 10 Enterprise IoT is supported until 2032, works great, contains almost no bloat, and is free to download and activate.
You can configure just about anything else you want or need using Chris Titus’ Power Shell Windows Utility.
Rufus is simple and easy to use for extracting the ISO to a USB drive, and has built in options for setting up a local account and automatically disabling telemetry options during installation.
Microslop is rabidly, desperately, sprinting-on-fire towards a closed mobile-style system paradigm, frothing at the mouth and glowing radioactive iridescent green with envy at Apple and Google’s silicon to application device and software ecosystem control. They want you to purchase the edge tensor hardware they need to run and train the LLMs and machine learning algorithms that will be used to analyze everything you do on your computer, perform deep learning recognition on every photo, video, and file on your hard drive, and securely export that model to themselves, advertisers, and the government at a premium, paid for by our tax dollars.
They’re burning down their own company to do it, that’s how bad they want it.
Be warned though that some installers will yell at you for not having a “compatible version of Windows”. Its rare, but some apps don’t like the enterprise editions.
My brother used to use enterprise windows 10 until he started having that vary issue with trying to play COD.
Damn, I guess he can’t play the same game that’s been rereleased annually for 20 years then huh. What a bummer
I’m banking on the world ending before then. Or I get an incurable cancer. Either way, fuck Microsoft.
Or I get an incurable cancer.
So you are planning to upgrade?
I know, right! How can they expect to die from incurable cancer when we’ve got all the world’s compute devoted to curing it?
Damn dude… Cancer over Linux?
I got Linux, but like I have some OSs that rely on ancient shit I can’t get my addicted ass off of
Damn, a somewhat disenshittified Windows that still has support??
It’s the barest of bones. I use it for one of my consulting machines in the times I’m forced to run windows.
I’ll have plenty of time to try it work, but I stop at 11 for personal use… long time coming but them putting a date on 12 means I now have my date to get off Windows altogether.
I guess I’m no longer ever going to play a video game that runs on Windows. At some point game developers need to realize that Linux is the future of gaming if Windows keeps pulling this shit.
That’s what Proton is for.
Except for games that use kernel level anti-cheat.
Which won’t matter at all once they start losing market share to Microsoft’s stupid decisions. The world will not sit on its thumbs because of Fortnight players. And good riddance in any case.
You mean the shitty games? Oh no…
I have 100 or so steam games. Each one that I’ve tried (around 20 so far), all of them work perfectly well on my Linux box.
Proton works great. I now play all my windows-“only” games on Linux.
Not out of principle. I’m just lazy. My coding laptop is always within reach and Proton works. The Windows laptop is, like, way over on the other side of the living room and I don’t feel like spending the evening disabling more ad shit or ai shit or whatever they did to Windows since I used it last.
proton is just emulating windows games,it needs windows to exist.
Confidently incorrect.
you mean correct
Lmfao Microslop stop trying to make Recall and Copilot and AI bullshittery happen. It’s not gonna happen.
it WILL happen,even if it takes ages to. AI is simply the future
AI isn’t the future, the IoT of this decade.
It would be nice if we actually had AI, instead of LLMs and ML models to analyze your cloud uploads for god knows what
Then shouldn’t you be talking to a chat bot right now and not to humans?
i do talk to gemini often about tech,but its simply not advanced enough yet. misses some details
It will always miss some details because it is just fancy autocomplete.
It’s like it’s a gdang robot or something. I can’t imagine have a full blown conversation with AI. It seems so damn depressing
