• definitely_AI@feddit.online
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    4 hours ago

    I take that as a yes, people can be wrong about themselves and who they think they are.

    Edit: My bad. Nobody can ever be wrong about themselves or their interpretation of reality. Sorry.

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          5 hours ago

          That’s not a name. Also, you clearly entered into an argument just looking for any excuse to justify that opinion…

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            I mean this is ridiculous. You are basically just trying to shame me into silence because you cannot express yourself in any other way. What is that? Do you have any statement at all?

            I have been nothing but calm and courteous, and you came in here and literally haven’t expressed a single cogent rational thought, only emotional outrage and dismissal.

            Is that fair?

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      People can be wrong about literally anything. That is not an excuse to say “fuck everyone else in this group.”

      If you extend this argument, we shouldn’t believe what anyone tells us about absolutely anything because they might have made a mistake. Truly a great basis for human society.

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        24 hours ago

        Why would you presume that questioning someone’s beliefs would mandate to treat them like shit? What a bizarre worldview. Everyone deserves to be treated with kindness and respect, whatever they believe.

        But your beliefs about the world do not dictate my beliefs about the world. That is surely not a hard concept to grasp?

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          Because there’s an explicit bias in your questioning. You wouldn’t question if I’m really cis-hetero, but you would question of I’m reeeeeeeeally gay or trans, even thought I’m sure there are more people who come up publicly as gay after having children than there are trans detransitioning.

          This is the same as the maga mentality, where any man in a position of responsibility is accepted by default, but for women they demand justification for the role.

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            Isn’t there an explicit bias in your statement? I think it’s kind of relevant that the vast, vast majority of humans don’t even consider this stuff, because they take no issue with accepting that they are men or women. Is that wrong? Are people wrong to think that it’s ok to just be what you are? I genuinely don’t get it.

            By far, by every metric, people are divided into men and women. There are rare exclusions, and those people should be treated just as well as everybody else. It doesn’t matter who they love or what they identify as. They are humans as every human, but it’s bizarre to demand that the totality of humanity abandon their intuitive instincts about masculinity and femininity.

            I mean by your own argument, surely normal “CIS” people (whatever that means, I genuinely don’t know, I don’t keep up with ideological abbreviations) also have a right to be heterosexual women and men. Are they not allowed to believe what people have believed for literally millions of years? I find that offensive. I extend you the courtesy to believe to be whoever you wish, and I acquiesce. Surely you should be able to do the same, otherwise you’re just dictating your beliefs and demanding everybody accepts whatever it is that you say.

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              “CIS” people (whatever that means, I genuinely don’t know, I don’t keep up with ideological abbreviations)

              Cis is a prefix. It is the opposite of trans. In this context it’s obviously an abbreviation for cisgender va transgender.

              Cis means “this side,” trans means “the reverse side.” You see them used in chemistry, for example cis/trans-isomerism. Even Julius Caesar’s writings reference cisalpine Gaul and transalpine Gaul (the part of Gaul on this side of the Alps vs the part on the other side of the Alps)

              Hope that helps you “keep up” with the English language.

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                It’s funny how it always devolves into name calling and domination tactics instead of actual argument. That only proves that this is not really about gender and equality, it’s about using moral condemnation as a weapon to dominate others. It’s very reminiscent of how fascists operate.

                Do you have any kind of actual argument you would like to discuss?

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                  It’s funny how it always devolves into name calling

                  It’s very reminiscent of how fascists operate.

                  Oh the irony.

                  I did tell you my stunts arguments, you started whining about your speech being blocked by “us” (whatever that means), then you proceeded to confirm you don’t know basic language.

                  I would like to discuss, but honestly not with uninformed trolls. I see you have a pretty recent account, that+ your behavior leads me to believe you’re just avoiding the ban you rightfully earned. I’ll let you to rant a bit, will see you in your next account.