Technology

Back in the day every screw on thinkpads had a series of little symbols on them to tell you which ones you needed to undo in order to get to the ram, storage, keyboard, and fans. Without needing a repair manual. I hope they brought that back!

without needing to disassemble the whole fucking thing

well you still need to take the bottom cover off

Nah they soldiered it to the cpu cooler cause fuck you thats why

Exactly, but it still won't get them my money. I believe in rewarding companies who had the balls to listen to their customers first with my dollars. Framework will be my next laptop no matter what any other competitor comes out with.

They're the only reason we're seeing any company starting to u-turn and make modular/repairable laptops.

Well, good...

Though reparability is a good part of it, another would be a concrete commitment that the form factor of various things will be consistent generation to generation, that Gen 8 boards will fit into a current laptop.

I suppose Framework will be the better laptop for individuals looking to buy a new laptop, but also business class laptops come with fancy enterprise things like on-site repairs. So I think large corporations, the main customers of new T series Thinkpads, will continue buying them just the same anyway.

I think the people benefitting the most here actually are going to be the people buying off-lease Thinkpads. Those of us who know a quality used laptop is better than a cheapo new one (like a Pavilion or Ideapad), but also don’t want to spring for a brand new laptop (in which case Framework would be the best option - they’d be great used too, but they’re not that common on the used market)

yeah, my company recently switched away from dell to Framework laptops. a couple of my coworkers with the Framework laptops really like them. They like how sturdy they are. The magnesium alloy case doesn't flex at all. Our dell laptops with plastic cases often get dented and bent so eastily, and cause various problems.

We also have a couple Lenovo laptops, and I haven't heard of any issues. Generally, the plastic used for Lenovo's cases are noticeably thicker and harder than dells'.

I definitely feel a sense of ease knowing that if anything goes wrong with our framework laptops, I will most likely be able to fix it.

At a guess, such cooperation would undermine Lenovo's profit margin and would thus be a non-starter for them.

Enter government regulation, to pinch corporations by the ear and drag them to doing what's right for society.

They even state it them selves in the article, so it is not like they are trying to hide this. Also they say that this is not the end all be all of reparability, which IMO should merit not then getting a 10/10 but idk what their metrics are.

It seems to me that Lenovo’s repairably is more affected by that iFixit partnership than the opposite. I don’t see anything factually wrong or suspicious in the article.

As someone who has changed a laptop keyboard before.

That picture says it all.

I use iFixit's guides all the time, so I would hope that their score isn't affected by it. I've seen them as being fairly good at their role.

This is true, but they're also not wrong that fully-modular USB-C ports is an absolutely huge win. It's one of the biggest things when it comes to laptops these days.

There's a difference between 'repairable' and 'upgradable.'

Absolutely! I've got a Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 (laptop/tablet thingy).

I've upgraded/replaced the ssd - no problem.

Unfortunately, this laptop has an issue with the keyboard: the left section/panel intermittently stops sending inputs. Meaning, keys like escape, a, w, shift, l-control - just stop (even in the bios). I'd read that they keyboard "collects" static which causes problems with certain sections of the keyboard.

I thought I'd see how difficult it would be to replace the keyboard. I watched a teardown video, and of course you need to remove everything... but I lost it when, the person in the video used a heat gun to melt "plastic rivits" that connected the keyboard to the motherboard case. Then with the replacement keyboard needed to remelt the plastic rivits.

This laptop is not repairable. In fact, I swore I'd never buy another Lenovo again as a result. ... but if their focus is on making them repairable (and their recent partnership with GrapheneOS edit: oops, that's Motorola and GrapheneOS) - I might be eating crow tonight.

I like my P16, but I found that despite being brand new the build quality is a little shoddy. There's a creak when I rest my right hand next to the track pad, the screen actually overhangs to the side of the keyboard! And a couple other plastic bits seem like they creaked and behaved poorly since I received it. Good components though.

Isnt lenovo the company that used to make the rugged military laptops that actually had Chinese or foreign backdoors installed?