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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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Inheriting their worldview from consensus or comfort, never having to earn it through actual thought.

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[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 child)

This is still a fallacious analogy because it's clearly exaggerated/fictitious and nobody argues like this. If it was instead:

A: We should torture indigenous people by killing their offspring in front of them.

B: You are acting in bad faith

Is totally acceptable - anyone arguing something like point A is most certainly not engaging in a ''good faith'' discussion, it's plain common sense that they aren't.

If you want to argue in terms of strict ''logic'', ''faith'' isn't even something that would ever ''follow'' from a statement anyway, so to say that following a statement with ''you're acting in bad faith'' is a ''non-sequitur'' is a meaningless statement. Unless you're reducing bad faith actors to people coming up and saying, ''hey everyone, I'm acting in bad faith!'' (which the vast majority of bad faith actors do not do) - which is ridiculous.

[–] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 child)

I'm trying to discuss things in pure logic so as to emotionally unload the reasoning. Bad faith means they are being deceitful. Whether someone says "Hello. You look nice to day." or "we should torture indigenous people" how can one glean that they don't truly believe that? Though the second one is so outlandish, I would assume it's satire since I assume innocence.

Unless you’re reducing bad faith actors to people coming up and saying, ‘‘hey everyone, I’m acting in bad faith!’’ (which the vast majority of bad faith actors do not do) - which is ridiculous.

It's been my experience they eventually do. If someone is telling me I look nice and I take it as a genuine compliment, but they're acting in bad faith, that's going to drive them up the fucking wall that I'm so dumb that I don't assume bad faith like they do.

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

someone says “we should torture indigenous people” how can one glean that they don’t truly believe that?

It's generally safe to assume they mean it, unless proven otherwise. People make hateful and racist remarks all the time, sadly, and it's almost invariably a consistent pattern of behaviour that goes beyond plausible deniability. The line of reasoning you've provided me reads as strangely apologetic and bordering solipsistic.

I would assume it’s satire

Even if the hateful remarks are understood to be ''a joke'', I don't think that's any less damning. These are not the type of things to joke about, and most reasonable and/or decent people realize that.

It’s been my experience they eventually do. If someone is telling me I look nice and I take it as a genuine compliment, but they’re acting in bad faith, that’s going to drive them up the fucking wall that I’m so dumb that I don’t assume bad faith like they do.

Can you give me an example of something like that playing out on a serious real-life topic such as politics/race/genocide etc?

[–] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 child)

It’s generally safe to assume they mean it, unless proven otherwise.

The sentence you're replying to completely agrees with this. I think you misread it.

Even if the hateful remarks are understood to be ‘‘a joke’’, I don’t think that’s any less damning. These are not the type of things to joke about, and most reasonable and/or decent people realize that.

I was thinking in terms of Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal or someone adopting a Colbert-style character, like the one from his old show.

Can you give me an example of something like that playing out on a serious real-life topic such as politics/race/genocide etc?

With politics, it usually comes in the form of verbal abuse.

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

How do you respond to verbal abuse without assuming bad faith?

[–] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

That's what I'm saying. If someone is verbally abusing you, it's a sign they are being deceptive.

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago

makes sense.

Do you extend this reasoning to corrupt institutions? Eg: people saying, "fuck ice".