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[–] Star@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (34 children)

It's so ridiculous when corporations steal everyone's work for their own profit, no one bats an eye but when a group of individuals do the same to make education and knowledge free for everyone it's somehow illegal, unethical, immoral and what not.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (32 children)

Using publically available data to train isn't stealing.

Daily reminder that the ones pushing this narrative are literally corporation like OpenAI. If you can't use copyright materials freely to train on, it brings up the cost in such a way that only a handful of companies can afford the data.

They want to kill the open-source scene and are manipulating you to do so. Don't build their moat for them.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (18 children)

And using publicly available data to train gets you a shitty chatbot...

Hell, even using copyrighted data to train isn't that great.

Like, what do you even think they're doing here for your conspiracy?

You think OpenAI is saying they should pay for the data? They're trying to use it for free.

Was this a meta joke and you had a chatbot write your comment?

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

If the data has to be paid for, openAI will gladly do it with a smile on their face. It guarantees them a monopoly and ownership of the economy.

Paying more but having no competition except google is a good deal for them.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Eh, the issue is lots of people wouldn't be willing to sell tho.

Like, you think an author wants the chatbot to read their collected works and use that? Regardless of if it's quoting full texts or "creating" text in their style.

No author is going to want that.

And if it's up to publishers, they likely won't either. Why take one small payday if that could potentially lead to loss of sales a few years down the row.

It's not like the people making the chatbits just need to buy a retail copy of the text to be in the legal clear.

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