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[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t get the complaining about the amount of ram, this is intended for students and other people with less demanding workflows. If it doesn’t fit your specific workflow, it’s fine, it’s just not for you, it’s just like people hating on Chromebooks because you can’t play ray traced cyberpunk on it or edit 4K video without stuttering.

There’s also the fact that macOS memory management is simplified due to having a singular memory pool between all processors, as well as the aggressive memory compression.

And those of you saying “8gb isn’t even enough for web browsing”, how? I’m using a decade old ex-school laptop on a daily basis, with 4gb of soldered DDR4 and a celeron n4100, I have I’d say around 30 tabs open at once and switch probably a couple hundred times in a period of around 5 hours, fully sustaining an interior design course with only a few very rare stutters.

There’s also the fact I’ve heard from many base model MacBook Air m1 users that it barely ever hitches, one of those is my sister, her workflow is heavy image editing, video editing and other design work, she has not had a single issue with it, and that’s with the bloated adobe suite.

And people misunderstand the reasons Apple solders their memory, sure it’s firstly to lock the consumer into a specific tier, but it’s also so their unified memory architecture can work as flawlessly as possible. You can’t add SODIMMs or LPCAMM modules to a MacBook, just like how you cant either with a strix halo APU just like Framework demonstrated, inconsistent signal integrity causes enough issues that it isn’t commercially viable.

Sure, I’d love Apple to make modular memory a thing for their Macs, but quite frankly, I doubt they can even achieve it without any compromises. There’s also the fact that I’d love if Apple could’ve put 16gb of unified memory into the MacBook neo with no raise in price, but realistically, the chipset design they chose, the a18 pro, only supports up to 8gb, and quite frankly they would never achieve a better price today while also designing it to handle a dozen memory tiers, as either they’d need to choose an M series chipset or design a dozen different types of A series packages with some future chipset that doesn’t exist right now, defeating the purpose of having a low price. The low price isn’t just due to the external design choices, it’s also because they chose to only build a single package, an 8gb a18 pro, which would reduce costs overall for the model as manufacturing can just scale, not increase in complexity.

I don’t mind if you downvote, it’s just a bunch of gripes I have with the overall reaction about this frankly pretty awesome new product offering, even if I don’t really like Apple a whole lot.

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The low price

Dude, there isn't anything low about that price. That's the point, with 600 dollars you can get a very decent computer from pretty much any other brand with at least the double of ram.

You see, you can get an used thinkpad for less than half the price and still have twice the ram.

It's just a scam product for people who know nothing about computers and will pay for this trash because they simply think "apple a good brand, right?".

[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Lol our store is doing billing customer management in google chrome on Debian With KDE Plasma on 8GB DDR3 pentium something. It was running Windows 7 6 months ago with 4gb ram for the same purpose. I then put a Sata SSD, increased the RAM to 8 and installed Debian. The laptops then would have costed like 300 USD and the upgrades costed like 30usd each laptpp for 4 laptops.

You really don’t need a soldered Half eaten and overpriced Apple laptop to do what you’re saying. Even an old laptop does it with few tweaks for fraction of the cost while keeping all the good stuff from those laptops like shit ton of ports. The only advantage of this mac is that its battery drain is quite low being ARM.

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Why would anyone buy a new laptop when the second hand market is so available? It's all just novelty. I wouldn't touch this, all I can think about is what it'll look like in the second hand market in about 3 years.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

Older ThinkPads are unbeatable, especially those that still have the CPU sockets in them, and can be upgraded. I put an i7-4702MQ into my L440, now it performs really well with Manjaro, at the cost of sometimes draining the CPU in 30-60 minutes under very high loads (battery might need some rebuilding).

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

I wouldn't touch this, all I can think about is what it'll look like in the second hand market in about 3 years.

That's pretty sad, tbh.

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Why is it sad?

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

For the target audiences, people just buying a low cost laptop for browsing as well as students, it’s unlikely the common person wouldn’t go directly to Apple to get the newest product. There will definitely be some who opt to get older second hand tech instead, but the vast majority would rather get something they have assurance is brand new and in fully working condition.

Personally, if I needed a laptop, I’d weigh my options both in first party offerings as well as the second hand market, and I’d probably come to the conclusion to just buy two broken laptops and combine them, but it’s rare to find someone who’s willing to splice two computers together for university or high school they’re going to in a month or so, and even if it’s more common, it’s still rare to find someone willing to dive head first into the second hand market when they don’t know how to check for fake listings, horrible deals and genuine bargains, which is why most opt for buying directly from manufacturers or from consumer electronics stores.

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 1 point 5 hours ago

Reputable second hand sellers guarantee that the device works properly before shipping. If I needed a laptop, I would get a low grade one on eBay for cheap. I would probably get a used Dell Precision 5570 Laptop with an i9/A2000.

[–] LuigiMaoFrance@lemmy.ml 11 points 17 hours ago (1 child)

$600 MacBook in 2026 is absolutely insane to me. Around 2007/08 when I started using MacBooks as a student the entry level ones used to be 1200€.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Consider that this is an iPhone 16 in a MacBook shell, though. This gives you performance comparable a 5 years old used MacBook M1. It's usable, but it's designed to act as a gateway drug, you'll immediately hit storage and memory limits and want to buy a more expensive one.

8gb of RAM in 2026 where most modern apps are made in electron and a basic text editor takes half gig to show a blank page is less than ideal

[–] fatcat@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 13 hours ago

To be honest it is not as big of deal. I have a MacBook M1 with 8 GB of memory and my swap is regularly 20 GB but I don’t have any problems when actually working with the system. It’s handling the low memory situation very gracefully.

For browsing, office and some media it’s totally fine.

[–] mriormro@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago

This is meant to tackle the chromebook market.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

This thing can run iPad apps right? So at least that is an option when the desktop version is shite. This laptop is aimed at college and high school kids who just need a browser and take notes. It’s probably fine for that. I mean I’m using an iPhone 14 for the last 4 years and it works just fine. It’s a Chromebook alternative it’s not for power users.

Just look at how many crappy Chromebooks get sold to schools. The Neo is the perfect replacement for that market.

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[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 77 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Not usually an Apple guy, but it's hard to overstate how smart it is to focus on affordability right now. I feel like having a ~$500 device in the current market is so important. (Especially if it respects your privacy.)

This is the opposite of "own nothing and be happy" and I suspect these things are gonna sell like hotcakes.

Now we just need to get Linux going on them. 🫡

[–] inari@piefed.zip 10 points 15 hours ago

Asahi Linux on MacBook Neo? A man can dream... 

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 point 9 hours ago

Affordability and battery life. I am team linux and android normally, but you really cannot beat a MacBook as an SSH terminal or remote development terminal because they are reliable and the battery lasts all day.

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[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago (1 child)

Apple has been violating people's wallets for how long and they finally decide now is the time to make affordable macs?

Complaining aside, this is a darn good move. The timing is great, so they are likely to be very popular too, which is good for the future of the market. I hope.

[–] worhui@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

They have had an ‘affordable’ Mac for a lot of their history. The Mac mini was a downright value for a while. They have had near $1000 laptops for most of my memory.

[–] jaydev@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 child)

Sorry but near $1000 and near $600 are not even remotely comparable.

I got an HP EliteBook 840 G3 in 2017 for $565 with 24 GB of RAM and 512 GB storage. That was NEVER possible with any Apple laptop. Until now.

Or actually, it still isn't now! The RAM and storage on this are absolutely abysmal for a 2026 laptop. PCs have already vastly eclipsed this bullshit.

As an Apple devotee that pays your annual tithe to your exclusive, elitist blue bubble cult, you're welcome to crow about their smooth interface and nicer terminal and better privacy, but you will never, ever, ever beat PCs on price. Ever.

Apple is a monopoly. Monopolistic exploitation that maximizes profit by keeping prices high and sales low is literally introductory level macroeconomics. They have never made their products good value for money, and they never will.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Good news: thanks to the AI Bros, PCs will probably have 8gb of ram and 256gb of nand too .. isn't progress grand?

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