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As a historian, I’ve studied the major consumer boycotts of history. We can take down ChatGPT and send a powerful signal to Silicon Valley, says author and historian Rutger Bregman

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[–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 4 points 31 minutes ago

Don’t pay for it. But use it. A lot.

GPUs are very expensive, so if you have them generating (for free) short stories of happy little kittens riding the subway in Manhattan or whatever, you are costing them a lot of money. Just don’t give them any data.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 10 points 1 hour ago

Bregman is a treasure. Very based analysis of societal problems and actually doing shit instead of only observing.

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Spoiler: All Americans that pay taxes are bankrolling authoritarianism. People who buy items from America are bankrolling authoritarianism.

Are all you Americans going to stop paying taxes?

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

They haven't used their 2nd amendment yet, so I doubt it.

[–] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 33 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I think it’s optimistic to think they would even care about a boycott now. By volunteering to cross the lines that Anthropic wouldn’t cross, they’ve achieved Military Industrial Complex status. It doesn’t matter if you don’t pay for a subscription, you’ll fund them with your tax dollars whether you want to or not. Their mass surveillance tools are too valuable to let them fail, so they’ll get propped up and bailed out no matter what.

[–] unit327@lemmy.zip 4 points 33 minutes ago

Every additional customer using their product currently causes them to lose money, hand over fist.

You should still boycott them anyway though, they care about user numbers and user activity.

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 1 point 49 minutes ago
[–] the_armchair_potato@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

People actually pay for ChatGPT? I am completely out of the loop lol. Maybe thats a good thing.

I’m a software developer for a small company with the two owners being the engineers and they have a Copilot subscription. It saves you countless man hours.

Looking up documentation is very rare now as it’s consumed that much data. It’s not perfect but it’s not we are vibe coding either it’s more like intellisense n steroids. We have lots of practices for how we do things and it learns from that context.

I wouldn’t pay for it for personal use but business use it’s actually great for us.

[–] morto@piefed.social 45 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Don't stop at chatgpt. Cancel any subscription you have! Stop using any big corporation you can!

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 32 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Internet subscription canceled! See you on the other side brother

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Pirate the internet! Hack the planet! DDOS the universe!

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I wish it was possible, Imagine mixing meshtastic with tcp/ip. it would be as slow as mid 90s, but forums/text based internet that doesn't rely on anything but communal decentralized infrastructure?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 40 minutes ago

Reticulum

You can mesh together WIFI, LoRA, HaLow, the lora devices can be the same stuff you run meshtastic on. End-to-end encrypted. sourceless transmissions. You can route over i2p and classic internet for some rather reasonable privacy.

[–] JustTesting@lemmy.hogru.ch 7 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

Meshcore might be a bit better suited for this, if you want to reach a forum further than 50-100km away reliably.

With the room servers it almost supports this use case already

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

would be cool to make a browser and server that work with mesh[core/static]. and given the need for very basic and extremely lightweight websites and services, or even APIs, making a website/api shouldn't be too complicated.

One can have a weather station and I can have a weather app that makes API calls through mesh[].

decentralized cache would also help, (if you are routing a call for a website, but you recently opened it and have it in your cache, you an send that, decreasing load on the network, and automatically making popular sites more accessible).

Also it could used as a backbone for more robust chat apps/forums/blogs/services.

[–] JustTesting@lemmy.hogru.ch 1 point 4 hours ago (3 children)

I agree, that would be amazing. I also hope it will help with some truly local community building (no troll farms from halfway across the planet spamming shit). Weather stations are already possible with sensor nodes, and most big repeaters have weather data. Though not like weather forecasts or anything.

The main issue would probably just be congestion, not even bandwidth. Once it's used a lot, some packets will just be dropped due to congestion and you don't get a reply at all.

A bit less of a problem with meshcore, with meshtastic in densely populated areas most users still don't set their devices to client_mute, causing unnecessary rebroadcasts and even more congestion. Though with enough adoptions maybe governments might lower their restrictions on duty cycle, allowing for more traffic.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Imagine local libraries and post offices pushing this technology to get around ISP's grips on local infrastructure. Helps during emergency events, local organization, and could even put e-books available from the library. Post office's make sense because of their rural locations extending the nodes and brings them into the 21st century delivering physical and digital mail.

edit: would also love to get notifications from local government this way instead of having to check facebook or whatever mainstream site that I need to register with just to view.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 hours ago

idk much at all about networking (beyond a home network) but if someone wants to begin building an alt-net I'd be willing to contribute a rasberry pi to the cause and leave it running 24/7.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 4 hours ago (1 child)

wouldn't the more users also mean more nodes? making the system scalable? as with more users, the network gets more robust?

[–] JustTesting@lemmy.hogru.ch 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child)

I'm definitely not an expert radio operator or anything, but this is how I understood it.

With Meshtastic, no, it actually gets worse beyond a certain point, especially in dense areas. Each radio rebroadcasts messages, so more message fill the air, causing more congestion. setting devices to client_mute (no rebroadcasting of messages) alleviates this to some extent, but most people don't do that. In general, a few well placed nodes are better than a lot of clients.

Meshcore with dedicated Repeater nodes alleviates that a bit, as a node is either a client that can originate messages, or a Repeater that can only rebroadcast. And it has a bit better routing protocol, reducing unnecessary duplicates in some cases.

The radio band is license free in many countries, but there's still some restriction, e.g. 10% duty cycle in my country, which means no radio can be sending more than 10% of the time (so 1 minute in every 10 minute window). That combined with (afaik) nodes only being able so send one message at a time limits how many messages can be in flight at an instant. And more clients increases background chatter from e.g. node announcements and duplicates, leading to further congestion. And in meshtastic, since packets "flood" out in all directions, and each node rebroadcasts again, and it's not directional, all the packets travel all over the place when you send a message. You could have a packet traveling in circles between new nodes for a long time.

E.g. in my region, originally the default for meshtastic was 7 hops on long range fast preset. That led to congestion so they switched to medium range fast, then recommended limiting hops to 5, and now ideally to 3, just so there's less chatter and less utilisation of the channel. 3 hops is barely enough for me to get out of the city I live in. Meshcore also does floods, but also can keep track of paths so you can have a relayed connection along a specific path that does not flood out in all directions, along with putting up repeaters being a conscious and strategic choice by users, so you get something more like a dedicated highway of repeaters that are placed high up and can relay messages much better than some client down at street level could. And the hop limit is more like 64 (I think it can be higher but that's what is set somewhere in the firmware). And repeaters are stationary, so they don't need to announce themselves to the network that often (e.g. every 3 hours in meshtastic vs every 24-48 hours in mesh core). All of that means less channel utilization and longer reach.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child)

so it's possible but it needs networks to be optimised.

[–] JustTesting@lemmy.hogru.ch 1 point 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yes. And that requires the participants to self-regulate and be educated, at least beyond a certain number of participants (and this number is more in the 100's than 1000's of devices in a city size area).

In case anyone is interested, in meshtastic, for a regular handheld device, set it to client if in a less populated area, client_mute in densely populated areas. router/repeater only for really well positioned nodes (think top of a mountain, NOT top of a tall building), router_late for ok positioned nodes where there's other, better router nodes around, but they can cover some dead zone that the better router ones don't cover. And then there's other like client_base for e.g. a rooftop node to help handheld devices inside the house reach outside. And follow the guidelines of your local area group/forum/whatever on number of hops, band to use etc.

None of that is really complicated, but a lot of users will just buy a device, turn it on excitedly with default settings, see that messaging works and not dig deeper, and then worsen then network for everyone.

With meshcore, there's a repeater firmware and a client firmware, it's not just a setting that can be selected in the app. Default is client, and switching to repeater mean reflashing the firmware. And more clients don't really matter for the network, since they don't repeat. So much less risk of an unwitting user worsening the network.

And if anyone wants to play with this, all the devices should support both meshtastic and meshcore firmware, so you can play with both and see which you prefer.

And if you're curious why I prefer meshcore, these are all the nodes I was able to hear on meshtastic and meshcore, respectively, in the same location, with meshcore I can reach twice as far in each direction

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[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 1 point 4 hours ago

There is nothing on the other side. Only blackness.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I'd be all in on community driven networks if one existed around here. Perhaps I need to start....

"Oh ya here's the community Plex server. Heres our community forum."

Etc.

I'm imagining at some point a fediverse of small community owned networks.

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[–] Wammityblam@lemmy.world 105 points 10 hours ago (9 children)

This is such a bleak time for tech enthusiasts.

It really feels like every single major tech company is making either absolutely moronic or completely evil choices

You are just stuck choosing between different flavors of shit

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 1 point 37 minutes ago

It sucks even more to be a tech worker, your job is constantly threatened by automation, but you also hate working for an evil company that does not care about you, but good luck finding a non evil company that pays 6 figures

[–] aproposnix@scribe.disroot.org 75 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

Its a major opportunity for the FOSS community. We need to step up.

Proprietary tech does completely suck though. Its all driven by capital.

[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 16 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Hardware is going to move to streaming. They want your hardware in a server farm and they eventually won't let people buy hardware. That's the future.

It's coming...

The time for people to be going all out with anger was probably 2001. They basically already won and are in complete control of America in an evil way. Including the FBI and military.

I don't understand why people (myself included) are still participating in their games and culture. We are cogs in their evil machine.

It's blatantly obvious it's over already.

[–] OMGWTFBBQLOL@lemmy.world 1 point 2 hours ago

I dropped out and plan on dropping out further, not rich but I did at least make some money out of this shit system but I am done done, I'll work but not for these pedophiles

[–] Wammityblam@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I should have been angrier about tech when I was 5.

[–] morto@piefed.social 8 points 7 hours ago

Never too late. the idea that it's past time only benefits the big tech

We can stop using their services, move to open source, stay with older hardware (so that they don't get money from us) and promote the few open hardware projects

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[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

LOL, oh cuz that went so well for Twitter? Fuck ai

[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 1 point 4 hours ago

LOL like I pay for any of this stuff?

[–] XLE@piefed.social 25 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

And keep in mind that Anthropic is just as pro-war and morally bankrupt as OpenAI; the only difference is they didn't donate as much to the Trump coffers.

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[–] NOT_RICK_SANCHEZ@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

I did my part this morning because fuck Sam Altman

[–] so_pitted_wabam@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 hours ago

Already done. Both because they are a corrupt company run by legendary grifter SCAM ALTMAN. But also because GPT is inferior to Claude in almost every way. Even Gemini is leaps ahead of GPT at this point.

[–] Sims@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 hours ago

All US big tech feudal lords are helping the Fascist US regime. Even Antrophic. Boycott them all..

[–] br0da@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

Cancelled 2 days ago. Feel terrible for not doing it sooner.

[–] YourItalianScallion@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

You'll be glad you quit when you did. ChatGPT is rotting people's brains.

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