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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (86 children)

A local city proudly mentioned on the news that they had a system that could track TPMS sensors. Pretty much all cars after 2008 uses TPMS sensors that each broadcast a unique identifier to the car. They aren't hard to remove, and you can buy valve stems that fit your car (0.452 hole) at any auto parts store.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 91 points 1 day ago (31 children)

By "aren't hard to remove" you actually mean requires dismounting the tire from the rim, remounting it, and then balacing it. This is far beyond the capabilities not to mention equipment of the typical layperson. Plus, your state is likely to conveniently fail your car on its next inspection for a nonfunctioning TPMS system, same as your check engine light.

If you're going to go the distance anyway, get your tire shop to mount aftermarket Autel sensors in your rims. Using the readily available diagnostic tool, you can occasionally reprogram those (wirelessly!) with a set of random IDs and then also program your car to use them. You'll be a lot tougher to track if your signature is different every week.

I'm not about to do this just yet, but I do have the tool for more mundane purposes and I only paid around $200 for it several years ago.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

Plus, your state is likely to conveniently fail your car on its next inspection

Your who is going to do what now?

(Posted from a state that doesn't check anything except emissions, and even then only for some cars in some urban areas.)

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fuck that sounds like a place full of dangerously badly maintained vehicles...

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 9 hours ago

Like Ontario -never inspected in a region where rust will rot out frames. I see collapsed pickups about once a month.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Surprisingly, most people aren't actually suicidally negligent in the absence of government regulation.

[–] chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I worked at a car repair shop when I was younger. I agree that it's not most (as in > 50%) but the number of people who knowingly drive very unsafe vehicles is bigger than you'd think.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

You would be extremely surprised. Car maintenance is expensive, and lack of inspection very often leads to people driving vehicles that should have been off the road years ago simply because a lot of states that axe it, axe inspections because they're expensive for the driver (a lot of these states are in the former Steel Belt). In better-off areas or places where people have more time/money/equipment/space to wrench on cars, then yes, but here in my city, I definitely have seen cars where the entire frame is basically being held together by Bondo and prayer, cars where they're running on 4 spares, cars where enormous sections of the body paneling are just gone. I've nearly been hit by people who clearly relied on yearly inspections to tell them "hey your brakes are failing" because they drive on autopilot and just adjust how they drive to accommodate failing/failed brakes.

In fact, I suspect maintenance costs are HIGHER in areas without inspection, because shops could rely on that regular-ish influx of cash even if it was only like $50-$100 a vehicle, AND you have the customer in the shop, so it's easier to go "hey you really need brakes, it'll cost you an extra $200 and take an extra hour or two".

[–] chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 day ago

+1000, but you still see it in places with plenty of money and space to work on cars.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago

Eh. I've seen enough 300+ HP cars with 10+ year old bald tires and paper thin brake discs to believe otherwise. I personally know two people whose cars have broken wipers that simply don't work. They don't care. I know one guy whose car's passenger door can only be opened by sticking the designated door opening pliers, which are stored under the seat, into the door panel through the hole of that door lock indicator peg thing and then fishing for some lever or whatever. You're simply not gonna be opening that door in an emergency. One dude at my office has an old manual BMW with a shifter knob that just loosely sits on its lever, and can easily come off if you are not careful. Gotta blindly maneuver the knob back onto its spot underneath the leather cover when that happens. He drives it like that daily. No shortage of hideously dirty diesel engines. No shortage of badly misaligned headlights, nonfunctional brake lights, overly loud engines etc.

In short I not only think state inspections are a good idea, I even think they should be even stricter.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago

Survivorship bias

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 day ago

That is actually surprising, given people.

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

State inspections are a racket. This is coming from a state inspector. Waste of time and money! I only got certified so I can inspect my own and wife's vehicles. Well that and it's invaluable at work but shit if your determined to drive an unroadworthy POS the lack of a sticker on ur windshield and the possibility u MIGHT get a 50$ fine and no points is not enough to deter the idiots from driving rolling scrap heaps anyways. Seen em before and will continue to see em weather inspections are mandated or not.

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